N.B. Mountie facing two counts of sexual exploitation
A New Brunswick RCMP officer has been charged with two counts of sexual exploitation while in a position of trust.
The charges stem from alleged incidents four years ago.
Cpl. Al Boulianne, who headed the Codiac detachment's traffic division in the Moncton area, has been suspended with pay since the allegations surfaced last fall.
The case is still under investigation, said Cpl. Sandra Christopher.
"In the meantime, he has been suspended with pay and anything further will have to wait to see the outcome of the charges," Christopher said.
A preliminary hearing date will be set when the case returns to court Aug. 18.
Miss Lulup wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 5:42 PM ETHe should have to pay back all of the pay he is currently receiving if he is found guilty...not to mention have certain parts of his male anatomy trimmed off.
enfield1993 wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 4:28 PM ETThere should always be checks and balances. I suggest never giving too much unchecked power to anyone.
pleasenotagain wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 4:19 PM ETM. Richardson..good point. Every profession involving positions of trust each have a few bad eggs. Don't let that ruin it for the many good eggs.
DavidMcgowan...I agree with what you said about a violation of trust being particularly dispicable. IF (no determination of guilt or innocence yet) the mountie is guilty he should loose his job, pension and reputation (and rot in Hell).
SANDRAb...uh...inocent until proven guilty right? Hmmm...if he is guilty and has collected his paycheque while on suspension then he should have to pay it back no?
NOELCOLTD wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 4:14 PM ETAnother case of the RCMP investigating the RCMP. You would think the federal government would recognize the serious issues wihin the RCMP...what with them investigating themselves on a new case every 2nd day or so...and nothing being accomplished. These cases need to be investigated by an independant source. You can bet if it was a private citizen charged with the same crime...the trial would be over already and punishment handed out if guilty. In the private sector, he would have been fired quickly to avoid the stigma...but hey the RCMP are used to stigma by now
DanFour wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 3:08 PM ETWhy are all you debt slaves pinning for Harper youth while the Mounties watch the slow traffic lanes?
Serpico wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 2:22 PM ETSpare us the rhetoric Danfour. Are you auditioning for some kind of 'Shakespearean Idol' we don't know about? Go back to your moat and practice your 'asides'
mikel357 wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 1:48 PM ETPart of what is necessary is a decent media. Notice that the incident is from FOUR years ago. Who heard about it then? Volunteer police would be no more 'anarchic' than volunteer firefighters, most of whom serve well. Towns with volunteer firefighters are more open to lawsuits, yet they are quite rare. Sometimes there are problems with training, but thats usually because training is limited.
Actually, in Fredericton they have a number of 'civilian peace officers', I t hink they have fourteen the last time I heard. But like with any bureaucracy the biggers problems are in the way policy is made and protected at the top.
There are a number of ways to deal with that, in the states sherriff's are elected as are a number of top bureaucratic positions. In other areas there are civilian oversight committee's who can govern over police actions so they don't get out of line. That opens up 'the system' somewhat, and right next door in Maine they have citizen's initiative's which means if you have a policy initiative-say to state that suspensions won't include pay, then you just round up the signatures and the people vote on it. Even if people don't vote the way you like at least it opens up the bureaucracy so that people have some control, and it tends to get more media coverage because most people look for information on what they are voting on.
Keep in mind that what we consider 'police' is a pretty new idea. In the 1800's police were half social workers. They helped people find jobs, as well as housing.
SANDRAb wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 12:29 AM ETdon't you just love this thing of being 'suspended with pay' . it's like saying 'go on a paid holiday for a year, you bad boy'. with that kind of punishment looming, no wonder we have corrupt officials in power. the average working joe does not get that kind of treatment
AndrewBedford wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 12:16 AM ETWhy couldn't a grass roots democratic public safety department be professionally trained? If firefighters can do it. I think it would be way easier to be a handle the public than run into a burning building.
I give firefighters WAY more respect than police.
I'm a volunteer with an emergency service provider and spend many many hours training to help my community as best as I can.
at 12:16 AM ETWhy couldn't a grass roots democratic public safety department be professionally trained? If firefighters can do it. I think it would be way easier to be a handle the public than run into a burning building.
I give firefighters WAY more respect than police.
I'm a volunteer with an emergency service provider and spend many many hours training to help my community as best as I can.
civicboy wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:53 AM ETI would much rather have a professionally trained organization to handle policing,fire, and emergency type work then some kind of all volunteer force (no disrespect to volunteer firefighters...your obviously professionally trained).
Having some kind of grass roots created safety organization I think..would attract too many people who are unqualified and unsuitable for the job. My father was a schoolteacher many many years ago, and he remembered alot of the cops that worked locally were school dropouts..and who were also known as the bullies when they were in school...these are not the type of people we want doing law enforcement work
The other thing that caught my eye here was the suspended with pay part. Now I do believe a person is innocent until proven guilty...but what annoys me is the double standard that exists. Anytime a cop or judge is accused of something like this...its always a suspension with pay...but when you here about an ordinary citizen being accused of it...what usually happens is they are terminated from their employment before their trial even starts. Even an accusation of sexual misconduct can be just as damaging as being found guilty of it. I don't know what can be done about that...but it really is a discouraging double standard
AndrewBedford wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:19 AM ETPower corrupts. That's one of those age old proverbs that always rings true.
Police armed with sticks? It works in england, why not here?
A grass roots police force, answerable to the public, not the government, thats how you keep power in check. That was, you might also have the government breaking less laws if they don't control the police.
M.Richardson wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:04 AM ETYeah right. Just what I want if someone breaks in to my house; a volunteer police force armed with sticks. Look, there are bad apples in every trade and profession. Lawyers, doctors, police, contractors, plumbers, mechanics etc...Most police officers are dedicated to their jobs and serve the community well.
AndrewBedford wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 10:51 AM ETAlmost every single day there is an issue with our police. Federal and local.
I am seriously starting to think the power we entrust to our police is creating monsters of people. Even those starting out with the best of intentions.
Maybe we need to think up another way of ensuring our safety. We have volunteer fire fighters, volunteer search and rescue, volunteer coast guard, volunteer pretty much everything. Why can't we have a more democratic, grass roots public safety organization. Without all this power and weaponry
I was watching this case very very very closely because it was the Saint John Police Force doing the investigation.
The R.C.M.P. told Minister John Foran that the Saint John Police Force acted properly when John Parks lied on the stand.
The R.C.M.P. didn't see anything wrong in deleting close to 200 pictures from my camera.
They knew I couldn't afford a lawyer so they deleted the evidence.
Yes, if the Saint John Police Force would have sided with the R.C.M.P. officer in Moncton?
This blogger was ready to go on a tirade.
I emailed three letters to Minister John Foran but the bureaucrats refuse to set up a meeting.
Should cops be allow to investigate cops?
So? The bureaucrats are refusing to discuss this issue?
Things could get very noisy in the Capital during the next few months!!!
I could have ended like poor little Ashley Smith dead in prison.
I'm very much alive and will fight injustice done by the Saint John Police Force till the end.
I might get myself arrested because this is the way the Bureaucrats do business in the Capital.
But there's only one itty bitty problem?
I know I'm 100% right on this one!!!!
A Police Force who promotes Fascism must be defeated!!!!
Stay tuned!!!!!
Here's the story about the R.C.M.P. officer in Moncton -
N.B. Mountie facing two counts of sexual exploitation
Last Updated: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 | 3:05 PM AT Comments20Recommend12
CBC News
A New Brunswick RCMP officer has been charged with two counts of sexual exploitation while in a position of trust.
The charges stem from alleged incidents four years ago.
Cpl. Al Boulianne, who headed the Codiac detachment's traffic division in the Moncton area, has been suspended with pay since the allegations surfaced last fall.
The case is still under investigation, said Cpl. Sandra Christopher.
"In the meantime, he has been suspended with pay and anything further will have to wait to see the outcome of the charges," Christopher said.
A preliminary hearing date will be set when the case returns to court Aug. 18.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2008/07/22/nb-rcmp.html
at 11:53 AM ETI would much rather have a professionally trained organization to handle policing,fire, and emergency type work then some kind of all volunteer force (no disrespect to volunteer firefighters...your obviously professionally trained).
Having some kind of grass roots created safety organization I think..would attract too many people who are unqualified and unsuitable for the job. My father was a schoolteacher many many years ago, and he remembered alot of the cops that worked locally were school dropouts..and who were also known as the bullies when they were in school...these are not the type of people we want doing law enforcement work
The other thing that caught my eye here was the suspended with pay part. Now I do believe a person is innocent until proven guilty...but what annoys me is the double standard that exists. Anytime a cop or judge is accused of something like this...its always a suspension with pay...but when you here about an ordinary citizen being accused of it...what usually happens is they are terminated from their employment before their trial even starts. Even an accusation of sexual misconduct can be just as damaging as being found guilty of it. I don't know what can be done about that...but it really is a discouraging double standard
DavidMacGowan wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:43 AM ETA few points if I may?
1) The Mountie has not been found guilty so let's not jump to conclusions
2) I completely agree with M. Richardson and totally reject Andrew Bedford's suggestion for a volunteer police force. I believe that such a change would result in nothing less than anarchy.
3) Any type of exploitation while in a position of trust is a particularly despicable crime and should be treated as such during sentencing AFTER a person has been found guilty in a court of law.
Tweedsider wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:40 AM ETReally? And here I thought they were completely perfect in every way like everyone else on the planet. And why police with sticks in England won't work here, Hmmmm maybe because this is not England for one.
at 11:43 AM ETA few points if I may?
1) The Mountie has not been found guilty so let's not jump to conclusions
2) I completely agree with M. Richardson and totally reject Andrew Bedford's suggestion for a volunteer police force. I believe that such a change would result in nothing less than anarchy.
3) Any type of exploitation while in a position of trust is a particularly despicable crime and should be treated as such during sentencing AFTER a person has been found guilty in a court of law.
Tweedsider wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:40 AM ETReally? And here I thought they were completely perfect in every way like everyone else on the planet. And why police with sticks in England won't work here, Hmmmm maybe because this is not England for one.
AndrewBedford wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:19 AM ETPower corrupts. That's one of those age old proverbs that always rings true.
Police armed with sticks? It works in england, why not here?
A grass roots police force, answerable to the public, not the government, thats how you keep power in check. That was, you might also have the government breaking less laws if they don't control the police.
M.Richardson wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 11:04 AM ETYeah right. Just what I want if someone breaks in to my house; a volunteer police force armed with sticks. Look, there are bad apples in every trade and profession. Lawyers, doctors, police, contractors, plumbers, mechanics etc...Most police officers are dedicated to their jobs and serve the community well.
AndrewBedford wrote:Posted 2008/07/22
at 10:51 AM ETAlmost every single day there is an issue with our police. Federal and local.
I am seriously starting to think the power we entrust to our police is creating monsters of people. Even those starting out with the best of intentions.
Maybe we need to think up another way of ensuring our safety. We have volunteer fire fighters, volunteer search and rescue, volunteer coast guard, volunteer pretty much everything. Why can't we have a more democratic, grass roots public safety organization. Without all this power and weaponry
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008
R.C.M.P. Cpl. Al Boulianne facing two counts of sexual exploitation!!!!
I was watching this case very very very closely because it was the Saint John Police Force doing the investigation.
The R.C.M.P. told Minister John Foran that the Saint John Police Force acted properly when John Parks lied on the stand.
The R.C.M.P. didn't see anything wrong in deleting close to 200 pictures from my camera.
They knew I couldn't afford a lawyer so they deleted the evidence.
Yes, if the Saint John Police Force would have sided with the R.C.M.P. officer in Moncton?
This blogger was ready to go on a tirade.
I emailed three letters to Minister John Foran but the bureaucrats refuse to set up a meeting.
Should cops be allow to investigate cops?
So? The bureaucrats are refusing to discuss this issue?
Things could get very noisy in the Capital during the next few months!!!
I could have ended like poor little Ashley Smith dead in prison.
I'm very much alive and will fight injustice done by the Saint John Police Force till the end.
I might get myself arrested because this is the way the Bureaucrats do business in the Capital.
But there's only one itty bitty problem?
I know I'm 100% right on this one!!!!
A Police Force who promotes Fascism must be defeated!!!!
Stay tuned!!!!!
Here's the story about the R.C.M.P. officer in Moncton -
N.B. Mountie facing two counts of sexual exploitation
Last Updated: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 | 3:05 PM AT Comments20Recommend12
CBC News
A New Brunswick RCMP officer has been charged with two counts of sexual exploitation while in a position of trust.
The charges stem from alleged incidents four years ago.
Cpl. Al Boulianne, who headed the Codiac detachment's traffic division in the Moncton area, has been suspended with pay since the allegations surfaced last fall.
The case is still under investigation, said Cpl. Sandra Christopher.
"In the meantime, he has been suspended with pay and anything further will have to wait to see the outcome of the charges," Christopher said.
A preliminary hearing date will be set when the case returns to court Aug. 18.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2008/07/22/nb-rcmp.html
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